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The Turkish government’s weak response to the region’s devastating earthquakes may signal the beginning of a political shift away from the current administration. I spoke with Prof. Ali Tekin, a political scientist on the ground.  Then I pivoted to a conversation about apologies – how to give and how to receive – with co-authors of the book “Sorry, Sorry, Sorry: The Case for Good Apologies”, Marjorie Ingall and Susan McCarthy.

Listen to the episode here.